Posts by Anony Mous

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If the UN fails, what do JWs have prepared?

by Anony Mous in

i was listening to a podcast about the current geopolitical situation, apparently the un has gone so far off the reservation being controlled by and trying to align themselves with anti-west values, a number of countries is attempting to kick israel out of the un because it is defending itself against iran.. off course, many african nations, some middle eastern, china and russia and a few european nations are all in some amalgamated economic league.

if the vote happens while biden is still president, it’s unlikely, given the election, the party is willing to throw their anti-semitic base under the bus and wouldn’t veto it, hence why these people are considering doing this now and china/russia would go along just to create some mayhem.

the un weeks ago voted to hand over a significant part of jerusalem to an unspecified state of palestine, this likewise went unopposed by the biden-harris administration.. if this happens, given the outcome of the next election, the us will almost certainly have to abandon and disband the un.

Anony Mous

@liam: but they already used that explanation for the League of Nations, which, like the UN was a complete failure.

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If the UN fails, what do JWs have prepared?

by Anony Mous in

i was listening to a podcast about the current geopolitical situation, apparently the un has gone so far off the reservation being controlled by and trying to align themselves with anti-west values, a number of countries is attempting to kick israel out of the un because it is defending itself against iran.. off course, many african nations, some middle eastern, china and russia and a few european nations are all in some amalgamated economic league.

if the vote happens while biden is still president, it’s unlikely, given the election, the party is willing to throw their anti-semitic base under the bus and wouldn’t veto it, hence why these people are considering doing this now and china/russia would go along just to create some mayhem.

the un weeks ago voted to hand over a significant part of jerusalem to an unspecified state of palestine, this likewise went unopposed by the biden-harris administration.. if this happens, given the outcome of the next election, the us will almost certainly have to abandon and disband the un.

Anony Mous

I was listening to a podcast about the current geopolitical situation, apparently the UN has gone so far off the reservation being controlled by and trying to align themselves with anti-West values, a number of countries is attempting to kick Israel out of the UN because it is defending itself against Iran.

Off course, many African nations, some Middle Eastern, China and Russia and a few European nations are all in some amalgamated economic league. If the vote happens while Biden is still President, it’s unlikely, given the election, the party is willing to throw their anti-Semitic base under the bus and wouldn’t veto it, hence why these people are considering doing this now and China/Russia would go along just to create some mayhem. The UN weeks ago voted to hand over a significant part of Jerusalem to an unspecified state of Palestine, this likewise went unopposed by the Biden-Harris administration.

If this happens, given the outcome of the next election, the US will almost certainly have to abandon and disband the UN. If the UN commits seppuku on this (if not now, some other time given it has handed out control to so many anti-Western and even non-existing nations), what will the JW say once ‘the second beast’ is dead. The entirety of Revelation interpretation book would have to be rewritten, most of the last 100 years abandoned.

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"Brother Jodie jenelle began his bethel service in in 1990....."

by nowwhat? in

but what they don't say he left started and ran a real estate company and a global real estate consulting firm and apparently after making a fortune come back to bethel a few years ago.

how in the hell could a non lifer now be anointed and appointed to be a gb member.

sure can't be for his spiritual qualifications!.

Anony Mous

There really wasn’t any separation when it came to the power structure. The separation was similar to how they separate the structure of local KH with some poor sap holding the bag when shit hits the fan but the rules come from the same place. It is just more obvious to us over the years, to the average JW they still believe their popes are pure and have no financial gain or motivation. The courts by and large have poked through this corporate veil.

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THE PROBLEM WITH THESE 2 NEW GB MEMBERS APPOINTMENTS

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/rjr0ugtu6zu?si=d3zsz20ee33gytxi.

these new appointments are troubling, to say the least, especially considering the factors surrounding their selection.

these appointments raise key concerns about leadership, experience, and what is happening behind the scenes at the organization's headquarters.

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When I was a child, many so-called anointed were in their 40s-60s. So not sure what changed since, the eschatological argument has been changed since that the 144k are exclusively their little group of 7 and the apostles, perhaps a few heretics like Tindale if they want to claim some succession, so at most about 100-1000 people qualified in history, they have thousands of years to go before they are sealed … and then the end will come.

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annual meeting and Helene

by enoughisenough in

i was wondering if any on here watched the meeting and if so was anything mentioned about the disaster in the path of helene and the suffering of those people ( included jw ) just curious.

Anony Mous

We all know the borg will do less than FEMA.

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October Elder's Letter Delayed- Big Announcement at Annual Meeting

by Newly Enlightened in

https://youtu.be/93h5zpbil6k?si=ffatfxjuxmj_na9i.

Anony Mous

@Journeyman: The internet exposed also several of their older songs being 'inspired' by other denominations (some riffs are outright plagiarized). There were more and more viral posts and questions going around, and not only that, they were putting themselves at risk of copyright infringement which around that period also had some famous cases that defined 'sampling' vs 'plagiarism'.

It also helped having less paper to print in a paperback vs hardcover and the enthusiasm of buying entirely new sets of CD from the borg.

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Another poster asked me to post this as they want to remain anonymous for the sake of the victims.

by karter in

hey karter can you post this for me?

as you know my ex wife and i adopted her brother at 7 years old when his parents passed away.. we brought him up a j.w but he left at 16 and moved in with his girlfriend.. it came out he had been interfering with our 3 daughters when they were very young.. he never got prosecuted becouse my daughters didnt want to ( i suspect their mother a hard out j.w has something to do with that) so basicly he walked free.. latter in life he left his girlfreind comes back to the j.ws and they welcome him like the prodical son and he marries a j.w.. if anyone reading this thinks the j.ws like to hide c.s a read on.. it came to my attention recently by 2 ex elders that had read the letter that followers him when he moves congros that it says the sex bettween him and my daughters was consensual..they were under 10 years old.. this were it gets disgusting.. i approach the p.o of my old congro and ask him who wrote the letter he said he had moved by that time go see another elder .. i did he didnt know as well and said for me to ring the branch.. i did and they were not interested in changing the letter at all basicly go away.. the offender has moved congros 3 times and every time they elders think my daughters under 10 went along with this pos.. not sure what my next move is as the branch here has closed down and they operate out of a diffrent country.. if anyone wants to ask questions ill p.m the reply to you..

Anony Mous

@karter at the age of 17 there may be a case to get him prosecuted as an adult depending on your jurisdiction, but proving it, prosecuting etc is hard. Best thing to do is report to the police and present them the letter you get from the elders, in many places, elders are required by law to report any allegations and them not doing it is a problem for them.

I wouldn’t expect much if this has been a long time ago, at that point you may decide to get the media involved, reach out to a few journalists, even a small win there will help show people who the JW are.

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NO SUPPORT FOR EXJWS DRAFTED IN UKRAINE

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/ulan2hhagz8?si=jpedzunzb5o_6axd.

here’s a cautionary tale for anyone counting on past ties with jehovah’s witnesses to dodge conscription: they’ll throw you under the bus faster than you can say “conscientious objector.” a man in ukraine learned this the hard way after refusing military service and hoping his old religious connections would save him.

spoiler alert—they didn’t.

Anony Mous

1M Russians dead? According to the US government it is currently 120k and Putin claims that is a gross overestimation, Ukraine has about 70k soldiers dead. However Russia has 2M troops and 250k paramilitary, there is a sufficient pool, Ukraine had 250k active troops before the war started and 1M reservists, however 768k military aged males left the country since according to the EU…

And Russia is not alone here, the Chinese are currently supporting Russia which can muster well over 100M men if they need to and have a massive economy.

Again, stop thinking simplistic about this problem, you cannot have Ukraine fight their way back and re-occupy Crimea, that’s the reality on the ground, so you need to ask, what will it take to end the war. Putin will not hand back Crimea and Georgia and Transnistria and Donbas, they are all ethnically Russian now, partially because weak FDR policy (who was a communist and Nazi supporter), but also Carter, Obama and Biden policy. If you force Russia out, how, where are the Russians that have lived there for a century going to move? If you follow history of the area from Genghis Khan to Napoleon to Hitler, it will end up with scorched earth but this time with nukes?

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NO SUPPORT FOR EXJWS DRAFTED IN UKRAINE

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/ulan2hhagz8?si=jpedzunzb5o_6axd.

here’s a cautionary tale for anyone counting on past ties with jehovah’s witnesses to dodge conscription: they’ll throw you under the bus faster than you can say “conscientious objector.” a man in ukraine learned this the hard way after refusing military service and hoping his old religious connections would save him.

spoiler alert—they didn’t.

Anony Mous

@Riley: so what is the off-ramp then, because Russia has expended very little in this war, whereas Ukraine has had a significant portion of its men leave or die. Russia has entrenched itself in the area it wanted to take. The rest of your information is likewise a very simplistic way of looking at the problem, the NATO argument is bullshit, but so is the argument that Putin just wants more land, the land of Ukraine is relatively poor (productively economically speaking) if it weren’t for the West, as you correctly said, pouring in tons of resources. Now that Europe is effectively bankrupt, what will happen in say 5, 10 and 25 years? 2.5 years was just half the on-ramp to the last world wars, Germany stopped adhering to the Treaty of Versailles and the Dawes plan was the West showing weakness in 1926, by the early 1930s Germany started practically re-arming, it was nearly a decade before WW2 set in. There are a lot of parallels here, the West showing itself weak and letting tinpot dictators take over in Eastern Europe and Germany.

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NO SUPPORT FOR EXJWS DRAFTED IN UKRAINE

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/ulan2hhagz8?si=jpedzunzb5o_6axd.

here’s a cautionary tale for anyone counting on past ties with jehovah’s witnesses to dodge conscription: they’ll throw you under the bus faster than you can say “conscientious objector.” a man in ukraine learned this the hard way after refusing military service and hoping his old religious connections would save him.

spoiler alert—they didn’t.

Anony Mous

The situation in Ukraine is a bit more complicated, as the Russians were merely interested in annexing pieces that Lenin and Stalin destroyed and turned into Russia by eradication and systematic replacement of the population. Those same places were forced away into Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia etc by the Clinton administration in the wake of the Soviet Union collapsing despite the fact they had no cultural ties to their ‘home country’. Had the people had a true election on the matters, we would’ve seen a bufferzone of places like Transnistria, Donbas etc.

Ukraine’s leadership is interested in the gas and oil and will (as it has recently shown) use western firepower it receives to even invade Russia proper, the response to the Donbas becoming ‘less dependent’ as people may not remember was bombing civil targets (terrorism) in Moscow, likewise with the other regions, you have (often Islamic) factions bombing Russian targets whenever they feel slighted, similar to Hamas attacking Israel whenever they want something.

This is then complicated by the fact that Biden allowed Putin to not only evade Ukraine security (Nordstream 2 in particular) but then also said that if they just invaded a little bit, he wouldn’t have a problem with it. That and the fact that Biden’s family has ties to corrupt Ukraine and Russian oligarchs that are currently profiteering from the European energy crises.

As far as the topic, Ukraine doesn’t recognize JWs or most religious groups or freedoms. Not sure if the WTBTS would have intervened, they likely would have been banned completely which would be an optics problem to the far left media. Should they have, potentially if they are true to their claimed standards, but the current iteration of leadership seems more worried about their ESG score with their Blackrock investment partners (see also COVID) than their followers.